District details its laptop purchases
by CAITLIN MULLEN
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SANFORD — After the Lee County Board of Education approved the purchase Tuesday of 2,326 laptops for all middle school students, administrators said implementing a 1:1 laptop program is the way to prepare students for the future.

The $1,455,781.22 purchase, which comes from state funds, gives laptops to all middle school students and teachers.

Superintendent Jeff Moss said he envisions the students using the computers for writing assignments, creating presentations and making spreadsheets using Microsoft Office, downloading video streams and communicating with teachers using a system like Blackboard, a Web-based forum for teachers and students.

THE COST

The HP 5101 mini computers, which don’t have a CD drive but are equipped like laptops, cost $494 each, said Chief Technology Officer Cindy Johnson. The backpacks for each student cost $20 a piece and the theft tracking technology, Computrace, cost $68.31 per computer, Johnson said. The purchase was taxed at 7.75 percent.

The district wanted three specific things when purchasing the computers: a six-hour battery, webcam and 802.11n wireless access, which Johnson said is the latest standard for wireless.

The six-hour battery is needed to last the school day, Johnson said, and it increased the price quite a bit. The 802.11n wireless is faster and harder to find than the more common 802.11g, she said.

Administrators did look into purchasing from Walmart or Radio Shack, but could not find exactly what they wanted, Johnson added.

Moss said choosing HP came through state contracts.

“We don’t have a lot of choice off the state contract,” he said. “There are some companies that set that all up with the state.”

THE FUNDING

Moss said the district wanted to take advantage of the state funding while it was available.

“With the state budget, you don’t know when it’s going to be frozen,” he said. “What we’re looking at is funds from the state to operate public schools. It fluctuates year to year. In past years, they’ve taken money away. This year, we’re trying to get ahead of the curve and use money now. It’s just a reprioritization of funding.”

State money will also be used when the laptops need to be refurbished in four years, Moss said. The district is also looking into becoming an HP service center, which would offset the refurbishing costs, he said. The district could save money by trying online textbooks that will replace the use of traditional textbooks.

“Right now, we’re in conversation with two companies about piloting e-books at not cost to us,” he said. “We’ll end up saving all of the textbook costs for middle school. At $70, $80, $100 a book, it can end up being a huge redirection of funding.”

THE USAGE

At the schools, the Internet access on the laptops will go through the district’s firewall, so things like Facebook and social networking sites are off limits.

At home, however, managing Internet usage is the responsibility of the parents, he said. He hopes students will continue their school work at home.

“The research opportunities are endless,” he said. “Teachers can still assign things, kids can work in groups online. It just extends the learning.”

But when asked about the reality of such extra work happening after school hours, Moss laughed and said, “I hope it will be used for that some of the time.”

THE REASON

Johnson said the laptops were purchased because the district is trying to stay competitive with others in the state.

“I think people feel we’re at the bleeding edge of technology,” she said. “We’re just trying to stay in the curve. We’re not doing anything that’s way out there.”

Chatham County Schools adopted the 1:1 laptop program this fall, said Director of Technology Peggy Douglas, equipping about 2250 high school students with Apple laptops. Many of the computers were accumulated over three or four years; Douglas couldn’t say how much the district has spent on the total number of computers.

“It’s working great. We’re really very, very pleased,” she said.

Mitch Stensland, principal for Chatham Central High School, said equipping all high schoolers with laptops has “leveled the playing field.”

“The Internet is the future of business. It’s helped our students get a head start in that arena,” he said. “It’s really opened the door to innovative teaching and instruction.”

Chatham Central spent the first month getting settled with the new program, like setting up the computers and teaching students to check batteries, Stensland said. He added that he’s only had a few cases of students visiting inappropriate Web sites and out of 480 students, five machines have been damaged from being dropped or sat on.

Students take to computers “like a duck to water,” Johnson said, and educators have to adapt to students’ changing needs.

“They’re very bored when they’re not engaged actively,” she said. “We can’t keep teaching them the way that we did 25 and 30 years ago. They no longer have the attention span for that.”
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Responsible Parents?
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December 11, 2009
Dear Mom Of 2,

Kudos to you, and God bless you! There are single parents who are actively involved with their children's education. After reading your comments, I would say you are an exception and not the majority in Lee County. My intent was not to put down single parents.

How about running for the Board of Education? We certainly need a fresh perspective there.
Mom Of 2
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December 11, 2009
Dear Responsible Parents? - I am a "single" mother of 2, one of which is in middle school. Because I "value education" and "provide a solid support structure at home", I do not want my child to have his own computer of any kind. I supervise his use on my computer. He uses it when I say he can and how I say he can. If I wanted him to have his own, I would get it for him myself. Being a "single" parent has nothing to do with my responsibility as a parent. Be careful of who you put down.

BOE - Need Answers - AMEN!!!!

So what do we parents who do not want our kids to have the computers do?

My 4th grader has an IEP that states that he is to use a computer in class. I provide a computer for him to use at home. Sure would be nice if the kids like him had these computers that they could use. Afer all, they have legal rights to services. Doesn't sound like LCS are providing them fairly.

Oh, the 1.4 mil sure would help this out of work teacher. Thanks for cutting my job to pay for the computers. Ready to pack my bags and move to a county with better use resources.
Sunshine Band
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December 11, 2009
Where is Keith Clark? Bill Tatum did not have local businesses provide a quote on these computers. This is an outrage. There should be a letter on Billy's desk two days ago.

We have multiple computer and electronic stores in Sanford yet not a word from Clark. The school wasted money, yet not a word from Keith Clark. Looks like Clark helping Tatum during his last election is keeping him mum.

Gosh, based on Keith's last letter, Tatum and Moss could have used the state contract published price to negotiate with the local vendor to make sure they got the job. Wait, Keith said it should go local regardless. Man he is confusing. Does Clark have anything to do with the atrocious graduation rate here or is it just the inept school board?

We miss you,

The Band

PS - We'll be in the club, just text us.
Teacher Student
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December 11, 2009
Ask Tatum, Moss or the Coaches regarding teacher student communication.

BOE - Need Answers
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December 11, 2009
Superintendent Moss said he envisions the students using the computers for writing assignments, creating presentations and making spreadsheets using Microsoft Office, downloading video streams and communicating with teachers using a system like Blackboard, a Web-based forum for teachers and students.

I might buy into some of this if I knew today's students knew the parts of speech; could write in complete sentences; and used subject/verb agreement in their writing. OMG and LOL just don't cut it with me.

To make a spreadsheet, you still have to manually create a formula which means you have to know whether the desired calculation is a result of adding, subtracting, multiplying, or dividing.

Downloading video streams? Please clarify what you envision.

As far as Blackboard, will this take place during school hours or will teachers now be on call after school. Does the school have a policy that lets students and teachers communicate electronically?
Responsible Parents?
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December 11, 2009
Superintendent Moss states: "At home, however, managing Internet usage is the responsibility of the parents..." It seems that is part of our problem now. Too many single parents; too many students with caregivers who do not value education; too many students without a solid support structure at home. Why set unrealistic expectations?
GUV EN MINT RUN
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December 11, 2009
The school is considering setting up a business enterprise now--HP Service Center? Please name me one government run business that is run efficiently, cost effectively, and is not a taxpayer burden. US Postal Service? Amtrak?
BOE - Need Answers
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December 11, 2009
One more question. Superintendent Moss indicated money could be saved by replacing traditional textbooks with "online" textbooks. Are the majority of middle school students receiving the netbooks at or above grade level in reading? If students are below level on reading, how will this really solve a grade level reading gap? Will those students receive audio books? If so, when will they learn to read?
BOE--Need Answers
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December 11, 2009
This is in no way a criticism of Cindy Johnson. I am sure she was handed this directive from higher powers. My questions for Superintendent Moss and the Board of Education:

1. What were the terms and strings attached to the $1.5 million state funding? Specifically, did it have to be used to purchase computers? By the time these computers are rolled out in January, these netbooks will be outdated.

2. Can you quantify that by equipping each middle school student with a netbook that they will now be more competitive. Competitive in what regard--academic achievement?

3. I am sure the school district has a needs assessment and a plan of action to improve academic achievement. What other alternatives besides the computers were options on the table?

4. Were the classroom teachers who will be affected by this initiative given an opportunity to provide input on this decision?

5. Will the netbooks all have the standard QWERTY keyboards and English screen language or will some of them have to be retrofitted for Spanish?

6. What exactly are the measurable results you will be evaluating following this very expensive rollout?
Thinking Man
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December 11, 2009
ODH: They said they will have tracking devices installed. That said has anyone went into the schools and seen how many computers actually work in the class room? I have been in more than a few elementary classrooms with less than half of the computers working. Moore County Schools have a pretty decent school system, why don't LCS take any of their ideas? LCS is failing our children and our teachers. I am trying my best to be able to put my children in private school next year. Now if I can just stop the government from taking my money to spend on something they have ruined and I will no longer be using!!
ODH
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December 11, 2009
So who is to stop the parents from selling the laptops to buy 40's, weed and crack??
Com Pete Tive
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December 11, 2009
Education Competitiveness

Lee - 64.5%

Chatham - 78.3%

Harnett - 74.1%

Moore - 82.5%

Our community will prosper when we educate our children. Reading, writing, arithmetic. Learn it, love it, live it.

Did the state mandate Moss and Johnson to purchase laptops or could that money have been used for other things? I doubt it was a mandate or the state would have bought them from Dell.

Capitalist Competitiveness

Lee County HP 5101 cost - $494.00

Net WH HP 5101 cost - $415.60

PC Nation HP 5101 cost - $416.25

Cali Comp HP 5101 cost - $421.00

$73 x 2300 = $167,900.00

Waste, waste, waste. Lee County Schools motto.

If the state doesn't give us enough funding, Dick and Doc will. Lee County Board of Education motto.
RandomGuy68
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December 11, 2009
Per the pricelist you cite, the $52.95 price is for a one year Computrace license. I'm sure that LCSS is getting a three or four year license for $68.31.
CostofStupidity
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December 11, 2009
So, two seconds and three clicks found the _same_ laptop at Amazon and CDW for $399. A little more and you find a deal like what we just got, a better netbook (smaller and faster) for less then $300.

Make the bag optional, most kids want to use their own, let them.

Worst of all, Computrace, from their own price sheet on their own website for the top tier product (which is probably more then what's really needed), is only $52.95. That's the _suggested_ price, which means it can be negotiated even lower.

This isn't even getting into the worthiness of 1:1, which, even as a lifelong computer fanatic, I'm not really sure of the value (yet).

$1.4M (the cost of the laptops, etc...) could hire ~45 assistants or 12 for four years (the expected life of the laptops)

Come on, Herald... bring out the big guns and don't let this drop.
State Contract
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December 11, 2009
First question, how much does Cindy Johnson make a year? If she is one of the six figure queens at central office, she should give some salary back.

Lee County Schools just purchased 2300 laptops and could not get a better deal than what is on state contract. Absurd. Boss Moss must have missed the class on negotiating with vendors.

Prices for electronics are way, way down. Dell just closed their plant in Winston-Salem and LCSS cannot get a better price. A quick search will get you low $400's with the items mentioned in the article. The ridiculous thing is that is not considering buying the product in mass quantities.

"802.11n is harder to find." Harder than what? Text messages on a teacher's phone? It sure isn't hard to find at a store selling computers.

Is there any wonder when LCHS students apply for a job their grammar is poor and they can barely multiply, much less do division.

alan061977
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December 11, 2009
Caitlin, fine job with the follow up. I wonder if the numerous comments to the previous story had any impact. In any case, "tip of the hat" to you and Ed. Alan Farrier
Laptopless
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December 10, 2009
Are school purchases exempt from sales taxes? Will the school district get a sales tax rebate?

If so, how will that money (about $100,000) be spent? Why middle schoolers? Will schools need to be retrofitted with 2300 electrical outlets for charging laptops?